Category: Guitar_Hero_Blog

  • Moved blog to Reddit

    Moved blog to Reddit

    I found myself duplicating my blog posts to Reddit, so I figured it makes sense to start a HobbyCNC Reddit Community community. It’s more interactive and I think that makes it more valuable.

    Moving forward, I’ll be putting any-and-all updates on Reddit, so consider subscribing!

     

  • Fret Button Design V3

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    Quest for the Ideal Fret Button Feel

    I’ve spent a LOT of time and energy understanding the Guitar Hero fret buttons.  Different guitars have different dimensions. Not much different, but different enough. I try to balance fit, feel, weight and strength to get the best fret button feel I can.

    35 Flavors

    I’ve identified 35 measurements and parameters that fully define one fret button. I measure all 5 fret buttons, and take the average of the dimensions. I enter these into a spreadsheet, then import into my model in Fusion 360.

    Even with my best efforts, the fit was never ideal. I wanted a design where the fret button was restricted to up-and-down only, so the fret couldn’t lean to one side and get stuck in the guitar neck. I needed to figure out how to engage the two rectangular holes on the top of the fret switches, but I could never guarantee exact-enough dimensions to have a one-piece fret button that will fit the requirement.

    Two is Better than None

    I considered one-piece frets, frets with shims, hollow frets you fill with something, longer frets, short frets, flat-bottom frets. I settled on a two-piece, glue-together fret button that solves the problem by engaging the keycap holes at the top of the actual switch, this ‘keycap’ will be super-glued to the fret button, and this locks the bottom of the fret so there is no side-to-side movement, only up-and-down.

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    One ‘keycap adapter’ is placed on each fret switch.

    NOTE: The little black ‘keycap adapter’ is cemented/glued to the underside of the fret button, NOT glued to the fret switch.

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    Why Two Parts Instead of One?

    This goes back to the difficulty of ensuring that the little keyboard switch is placed precisely in relationship to the hole in the neck, for all 5 switches, for all possible production variations in the guitars. I don’t have precise guitar design specs, I have to reverse engineer with the small sampling of guitars I have access to.  Close enough is good enough in this case.

    The two part method allows for variations in dimensions and ensures an ideal fit between the neck and the fret and the switch.

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    All The Parts

    Here’s an image of all the various parts involved in this process.

    I really want you to see and understand the difference between the fret and the fret switch.

    This also gives you a nice, high-level view of how the concept works.

     

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    Assembly Details

    Part 1 Test Fit Only (no glue yet)

    1. Print the fret buttons and keycap adapters.
    2. Sand/adjust the fret button as necessary so it moves freely in the guitar neck.
    3. Transfer the little black ‘bumpers’ from your original frets to the newly printed frets. Pay attention to the orientation, there is an in-side and an out-side!
    4. Place the fret buttons in their desired places in the guitar neck.
    5. Place one keycap adapter onto each fret switch. It should stay nicely in place (friction fit).
    6. install the circuit board with the 5 switches AND keycap adapters onto the guitar neck.
    7. Place the back of the guitar neck in place and hold firmly together using rubberbands or screws.

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    Part 2 (yes, glue now)

    1.  Test the ‘feel’. Ideally you want the fret switch to be pressed-in about 1 mm when the fret is NOT being pressed.
      The fret button should be held neatly in place by the spring within the switch.
      If the fret buttons feel too loose (e.g. they are not in contact with the keycap adapter, you can print keycap adapters of different heights until you get the feel you want.
      See the red asterisk in the drawing above. This dimension an be altered as necessary.
    2. Press the frets to ensure movement without binding.
    3. Remove the rubber bands or screws and separate the guitar neck.
      Remove the circuit board and fret switches, ensuring the keycap adapters are still attached to each fret switch.

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    1. Put a drop of super-glue on top of each keycap adapter. Be EXTRA CAREFUL to make sure the glue does not overflow the top and get into/onto the fret switch.
    2. Place the PC board and switches into place on the guitar neck.
    3. Quickly position the neck back into place and re-apply the rubber bands.
    4. After all glue is cured, you can remove the back and add the screws to retain the PC Board, then reassemble the guitar neck.

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  • New Product: Neck Lock

    New Product: Neck Lock

    If you’ve modified your fret board to be ‘hard wired’ (e.g. bypassing the body-to-neck connector), then you really don’t want the neck to be removed and risk pulling/damaging the wiring.
    This simple solution replaces the stock unlock lever with a lever that fills the entire crescent-shaped slot. Simple, “easy” to install (once you’ve removed the 47 screws that hold the guitar body together).
    Unscrew the stock lever and screw in the new Neck Lock lever. You can see the install process here.

    Like everything else Guitar Hero, There are several different sizes/dimensions, so check carefully!  Check the Store Page for the guitars supported.

  • Testing the Clone Hero Conversion

    Testing the Clone Hero Conversion

    Here’s how the testing happens for the Clone Hero Conversion kit.
    I built a jig to hold all the circuit boards securely in place so I can do a complete system test, including the ’tilt’ sensors (for Star Power).
    I used my 3D printer to design special jigs to hold each board in place so I can poke-and-prod to confirm it’s all working!
    With all the boards firmly in place, I can quickly and easily confirm the programming, configuration and wiring. I could even play clone hero with this setup, although it’s kind of a poor form-factor!
    This way, I’m 100% confident each product will perform as promised!

  • Clone Hero Conversion – another guitar supported!

    Clone Hero Conversion – another guitar supported!

    I’m pleased to report that the HobbyCNC “No Solder” Clone Hero Conversion has been successfully installed in a Les Paul for PS2, Model #95121.805.
    This conversion now works with both the Les Paul for Xbox and for PS2. You can review the complete conversion guide here.
    This is a great option for folks who are not interested in hacking-together a solution from all the parts-pieces.

  • Awesome new Tool – Solder Pot

    Awesome new Tool – Solder Pot

    I just purchased an inexpensive solder pot for my workshop. Several of my products, like replacement ribbon cables and my new Clone Hero Conversion, require the tinning of LOTS of 28 gauge flat ribbon cables.
    This task is slow and difficult using just a soldering iron. Using the solder pot makes the process 10 times faster and at least 5 times better! These small wires are tinned almost instantly, and just about perfect.
    If you’ve got lots of wire tinning to do, I recommend this solution!!

  • New Spare Parts Added

    New Spare Parts Added

    I’ve decided to add a few more parts and tools to my product offering.
    Two parts, in particular – the E-clip and the spring for the Whammy Bar are particularly frustrating when they are misplaced (or launched across the room, never to be seen again).
    I now include one E-clip with every Whammy Repair Base, just in case!
    And anyone who has tried to repair a guitar will find that those itty-bitty screws that hold down the circuit boards will strip the head if you look at them wrong.
    And last, I added a T6 Torx Wrench. Seems the recent World Tour Guitar (xBox 360) I dissected had T6 Torx holding down all the circuit boards!

  • Yet Another Damn GH Fret Board!

    Yet Another Damn GH Fret Board!

    I had been constantly surprised how many new guitar hero boards I discovered after I started this project.
    While dissecting a Les Paul for Wii, and I made new two discoveries: yet another fret board (TG-GUITAR-W-G1) and “TG” style fret buttons.
    Luckily, the GH-03 is an exact fit. Best as I can tell, this is a non-US type guitar. I’m sure more surprises await.

  • Make your LP 360 neck ‘fixed’ without glue or screws.

    If you want to make your Les Paul 360 guitar neck “non removable” without glue or cement, here’s a part that will ‘lock’ the neck in place, yet allow removal by opening the guitar body. Particularly handy for hard-wired fret boards! Purchase pre-printed or download a free STL.
    Les Paul Xbox 360 neck retention

  • New 3D printer

    New 3D printer

    I finally got rid of my old Makerbot 2x 3D printer. For a long time I blamed the printing problems on myself, not the printer.
    I ordered and assembled an Original Prusa i3 MK3S+.
    Excellent manual led me through the assembly process, and it started printing right away.
    So, I printed my latest prototype fret buttons (GH-BTN-LesPaul-360-V4) with a 1.5mm set-back.
    They fit the guitar P E R F E C T L Y with no adjustment required. I was super-pleased.